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ok i downloaded this version of vue with utorrent and i installed today
so when i was rendering the scene i discover this option on the render menu
"external"
For my surprice the scene was rendered on the disk without the water mark!!!!!
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ok yo descargue hoy de internet desde utorrent vue y la instale y empese a probar cuando estaba renderisando la escena yo nesiando las opciones coloque el render en "external" 
para mi sorpresa la escena estaba sin marca de agua !!!!!
que alguien mas pruebe a ver si sucede lo mismo jejejejej | |
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Is this for xtream, are you installing as rendernode to bypass the license? Or is this the PLE? If its rendernode install are all the features working? spectral clouds III? all the new features?
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oh and by the way, the external was always in the selection lists...its really used for a renderfarm setup but really like you've shown i see no reason as to why it won't work.
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wow hes right use external render in the render options no watermark
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That's choice.
Thanks...going to Pirate Bay riiiiight naow!
One thing though; the tracker says "NOT CRACKED"
How did you get that sucker up and running at all?
Oh well, downloading as I write this. 80kbps..
The thing is though...were you limited in the size of the render?
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he had to install it as rendernode, the floating license install instead. That works off the other version that was upped earlier this week.
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I tried and it seems itīs working great. isnīt it funny?
I think its the same thing render node or floating license will work
I tried installing the floating license and then use without license and the external render works with no water marks..
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Wow, lots of seeds. Getting nearly 450kbps.
Which copy do we need to get from this site? A floating licence? Any ideas.
Or will this install as a demo. ? Thanks guys.
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yes.... render on the disk without the water mark.
i download from
hxxp://forum.cgpersia.com/f13/vue-8-xstream-extra-cd-4070/
and floating licence
i have install both... vue 7.2 (c.r.a.c.k.e.d.) and vue 8...
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the size of the render is unlimetated , you need to install the floating license mode, there is not another way , we dont have keygen yet right?
is a full version of vue not PLE. chechk the torrent
ONLY THE FULL VERSION WILL WORK
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yea but this version keeps crashing before i can build a very large scene procedral terrain and water and it crashes my puters not too powerful though amd x2 4000 8 gigs memory and a 9800 gt version 7.2 doesnt crash on me or 3ds max or maya
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I think this torrent and the release from the other thread must be actually the same file. I m using the vue 8 iso posted by icritk... and the external render works.. but when you try to save you got the PLE alert.
About the new spectral clouds :
"Because all the improvements are in the algorithms, you will not see any new settings in the
interface. However, all clouds created in previous versions of Vue will immediately benefit from
the refined algorithms of Vue 8."
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What OS? the x2 4000 is a semi older chipset....could be something more going on in your system. I'm installing the rendernode right now, I'll do some tests on some premade massive scenes from work and let ya'll know if its any different than the retail licensed version ro not.
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wooohooo confirmed....any resolution, all features seem to be working no crashes on 3 builds and renders By the way, don't bother with the torrent, if that file is still accesible via our other posting here on this site, jsut download ther instead. I'm using that iso and its perfect and less chances of some hidden viruses from that torrent.
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do the plug ins work too?
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Just got done moving all my vue 7 and vue 6 assets over and it all works. Not sure about the plugin yet for max
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ok weird....i just saved the file i was working on and its reading this as the PLE saying i can't move the file to aonther machine to use....might be bad for my renderfarm setup =/
File import works no problems.
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I install it without serial? or do I get it?
watermark appears on my render
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It works fine on Mac OSX using this external render trick - any and every resolutiion. No watermark. I used the iso DL from here.
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Can someone please condense and clarify what has been discovered in this thread and how to do it. I haven't ddld anything yet. Thanks.
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install Vue 8, when asked to install vue 8 xstream or as rendernode, choose as rendernode. Then follow the rest of the install. No keygens needed. Once its installed open the application, create a scene(if you don't know how to use Vue yet, go download 7.0 and learn). Ok now that you've got your scene all set and ready, don't try to use in Max or another 3d app cause it just crashes so far. Next, right click the render settings button. Choose EXTERNAL renderer(you can setup your scene using the watermarked preview quality to get it the way you want beofore final render) So when ready for a final shot, choose external renderer. Choose file type and paths for color, alpha, Zdepth, then click render. A dialog box will appear then a DOS promt box will being to show render progress. Let it run to 100%. After it completes, go find your file on your computer, enjoy!!!
This is not the final attempt yet, im sure people are still working on the crack, but in the meantime this makes Vue 8 a working application. The only thing so far we've found wrong with this way is you cannot use in another 3d app, and seems that you can only save and use on one machine. The onyl difference im seeing right now from what im used to is i dont get to watch it render out in realtime for the final, but was able to see it using the internal renderer set on preview for the ability to make sure the scene had tohe look i desired b4 final render.
PS
Seems rendering in this mode is faster, its all # crunching now instead of an actual visual rendering of each pixel. Testing a render right now that used to take about 5 hours at work on this same version but using the internal renderer. at 75% after 30 mins already.
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Yes, this works if you follow shagr14's well written directions!! When you start the app, it will ask for a licence, but just chose "start without a licence" and all is good.
The rendering is super fast. I'll second shagr14 on this, it is prolly 4 times faster or more. And scenes look good with no watermark under external renderer. Thanks op, shagr14 and all others involved.
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I think we stumbled onto a corporate version for employees to learn, or a scholastic version or an internal version. Not sure, but it's got no protection for a reason.
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Not sure if it has been mentioned yet but you can use this in your 3D program without crashing if you edit -
\Program Files\e-on software\Vue 8 xStream\xStream_Render_Node.cfg
change -
xStreamRenderNode = true
to
xStreamRenderNode = false
Unfortunately you will still have watermarks as there seems to be no way to choose the external render-er , but you can still play around with it.
This change should not effect opening the program and using as standalone.
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*laughing imagining people sititng there toyin with every dll or cfg trying to see what happnes* yall got some serious patience..*laffin*
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hmmm wodner waht will happen if u cahgne this around *laffin*:
# Uncomment the following line if you want the plugin
to trigger an error (a crash of the host application)
when no license is found. It is generally not possible
for a plugin to abort a network render or to tell the
renderer that it should stop rendering, so this option
can be useful. Generally, the network rendering
manager will be informed of the error.
# FloatingLicense = error
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wonder why e-on is still flooding the library with more than 2.000 files of useless shit...
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i think more than one will be in problem in the vueīs team .
this bug only work on the vueīs software i try 1000 ways to get the same bug in 3ds max but nothing  .
ok i have another good news i probe render a video and it work too.
no water mark in the animation mode  . Attachment 191 | |
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Yes...
that's work without watermark...
But the render is slowly... very slow...
thank's and have a good day
and here, don't work with 3ds max 2009 and Poser (poser 7 pro)...
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Yes it works but don't allow rendering using poser shader tree for imported poser models wich means less quality | |
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[QUOTE=reitnomud;18518]Yes...
that's work without watermark...
But the render is slowly... very slow...
thank's a
ummm ive rendered 4 scenes so far and there is ni quality loss.
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for the people saying its lower quality. ive done 4 production renders now and its photo quality. what settings are u running? im using 600dpi all high settings using gr. not sure what u r doin.
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slow? this thing is 5 times faster than previous releases
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oh I forgot to mention. For those claiming its slow, here's a tip, go into your control panel and setup your paging file. Set it to 2,000mb minimum, and 10,000 max on a drive other than c:. Reboot machine, then try a render.
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hi shagr14, thanks for you input, i believe you are a hiflyer in this case..
please refer or give some add ons or tutorvid for us who noobs like me in the future...
very helpfull thread. thanks
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hey i just wanted to share that i rendered a video using external renderer...it has no watermark...but i also use internal renderer and it has also no watermark as well....here is the picture from vue8xtrascd....i don't know what happened..
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of course it will be a little bit slower in some scenes that will compute sky more accurately...but it is faster....its memory usage will double in external render mode or in render node it will add additional ram usage of course it will result to slow rendering but if you have huge amount of free ram it will not affect that much...i experimented this with small scenes and it is faster....what more if we have a stable version
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additional tip you should upgrade your video card...mine is a little bit old geforce 8400 gs and yet it is really really fast renderer compare to vray sp4
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here's another render by using external now...you can see the difference plus the render time is slower than internal....btw...my previous attachment is rendered using internal but without watermark...i don't know why...i have no serials yet..
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Could someone upload to r a p i d s h a r e please, thank you so much in advance, my PC always restart with torrent | |
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Arkimote, there's really almost no difference in either render, what we're debating here is the render times, post those in difference with each other. And to the guy talking bout video card, when rendering in external mode, a video card could be taken out of the machine it doesn't do a thing in the render. Rendering = CPU/Memory, REAL time rendering like games you need video memory for for on the fly rendering at fast paces. Setup your page file correctly and you will have more than enough RAM for vue unless you're running windows 7 with a 2gb machine. For what we do in cg, there is simply no excuse to have any less than 6gb RAM in a rendering machine. Also look down at the bottom of your vue interface, it reads how many cores you have. Mine reads 8 cpus. Your video card only makes a difference when setting up the scene in the interface. Rendering is just a crunching of numbers that is posted out into a jpeg, or whatever format you use when its finished.
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... and... ehm... actually first render has watermark | |
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in the first render you can barely see the watermark or none at all...sorry i can't post the large image here...there's a lot difference...the first render has more glow in the clouds the big difference between vue 7 and 8...yeah i know video card will not contribute a lot to render times but vue is depending on how many free memory your pc has while using render node you will have the stand alone and render node running together especially for large scene it will go up higher than 3 gig...i have 4 cores with 4 gig ram...internal render is faster than external rendering technique ...i already tweaked the page file i know what i'm doing...and i know that it is faster than 7 but slower in some serious scenes coz it will compute it more accurately...what i'm thinking is that with proper tweaking with lights and effects we can erase the watermark without using the external render option...*Learn to type out "Please"**Learn to type out "Please"**Learn to type out "Please"*. enlighten me...i'm sure there's a lot of difference between the two pictures i posted coz i can see it in full screen mode.
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@shagr14 thanx for all of your helpful tech tips. I will have to go and check on my paging file setup after reading your tips above.
i have a quick question for you. Vue has asked me if I wanted to raise the amount of memory on my vid card from the default 128mb but this just seems to be a temporary change and I can't seem to find where to change it permanently. I remember seeing you talking about vid card memory the other day and I was hoping you could tell me where to change it permanently.
you also say that you couldn't justify using Poser in your workflow and well I don't know what you do but I use both Poser and DS and make custom characters and custom textures for them and have been having great success using these in Vue. you can do similar stuff if you know character modeling and rigging but I prefer the workflow of using Zbrush and DAZ figures and then SkinVue in Vue for them. you get an awesome result. well worth checking out'
thanx again for your tech tips
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@BX107
Hello there,
Did you install it under OS X as Render-Note and then simply start it without license ?
I did this so, but when i want to render a scene (with the "external settings") the black render-window shows the renderjob as "failed" !!!
I use OS X 10.5.8 and a Dual-Quadcore Mac Pro with 16 Gigs
Thanx
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e-on Vue 8 xStream - Not Yet Cracked -Torrent (Full Version + extra cd) | |
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