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Old 03-31-2013   #1
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The Filelocker Purification Act

The Cgpersia staff have decided to initiate what we have dubbed 'The Filelocker Purification Act'.
This is due to the influx of poor quality and unfair use of 'Post Megaupload' filelockers by money whores on the forum for the single purpose of making money of our user base which ultimately bring down the quality of Cgpersia as a whole.

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Here is the current list of hosts we have so far found to be shit, and worth possibly banning:

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(Please tell us more poor quality filehosts that should be banned)

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Here is the current list of filelockers we so far consider to be quite good, and worth of being used more often:

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We need to find more free and fast filehosts for use on the forum, they need to check the following boxes.

  • none or very little speed restrictions for free users.
  • no wait times between downloads.
  • no forced premium account access.
  • little advertising or forced crapware.
  • No deletion of links under 3 months of no use.


Please post any good filehosts you find


This will hopefully further increase the quality of the forums and cut down the influx of money whores posting crap releases and links just to make cash, and move people over to using more user friendly file hosts and Bittorent with Cgpeers.

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To elaborate further, these lists are not final at all, and up for discussion before anything at all happens.

Why are we pushing this now? A lot of these newer filelockers are utter scum, and BARELY constitute as a free filehoster. Take rapidgator for example, you're limited to ONE free download a day. Hell, even if you let your captcha expire once, you're locked out before even getting to your first download. This is straight up bullshit, basically forcing you to get premium.

So then you ask, why even ban it? Can't people use common sense and start using the non asshole filelockers?
Well, that's the problem. The majority of the re-mirror people, and non credible releasers, keep using only the worst of the worst filelockers. Why? Because they payout the most. These users don't give a shit about the community, they just want your downloads to make more jewgold.

Either we start forcing these people to stop using utter garbage, or have other people fill in their shoes on new releases. I'm just utterly sick of seeing the scumbags get first release digs, on links that are bascially premium only, since good luck finishing all those parts in under 24 hours. Today for example, someone tried to make several threads linking to the trial links, also including only shit "premium" multi part filelockers links, but the catch is.. the keygen was only in his multi part links. So even if you downloaded the trial, you still needed to download it all over it through his jewgold links. That's straight bullshit, and will keep happening if downloads remain to be so profitable.

These almost premium only filelockers are the cancer of the warez scene. And we need to apply some chemo, or things are just going to keep getting shittier for you users who rely on free filelockers.
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Will this culling prevent future releases of goodies that we would otherwise not get?
Surely not many people use these links..most, will just wait for someone to download and mirror or torrent.

Alternatively, provide a section just for such links...anyone not posting scum links in section gets sectioned?

Im all for improving quality...but this must include quantity too:~}


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ok..mass copypasting from other sites when persia already has should be instant ban.
Petshopper usually posts things persia doesn't have...but it very rare i use his links, prefering to wait for decent link/torrent. As for Mega...just use portable firefox and install plugin for mega....phuk Chrome.
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Yes, it will prevent mass copypasting from other sites, so less crap will get posted (sorry petshopper, you might have to read a book instead).

But many times we see a release posted here and then an hour or so later there will be "premium only" mirror links posted by the same 3-4 regulars, or "ancient" threads resurrected by new mirrors (ch1ooo).

Free, high-speed mirror sites should allow more people to grab a release (and if not on peers then it will get there faster). These should also be easier to get more mirrors from as more people will have the original files.


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( Performs some weird background scripting and then says shit like "Your browser is not modern enough to download a file of this size" and then tries to make you download Google Chrome)
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Hawkeye has a point, we still want to keep things online as long as possible.
Maybe we can tweak the "ban" to only be enforced on the first post of new threads, aka the primary links. Then have others mirror it to as many places as they feel under it. Since no ones going to be using those alternate mirrors anyway, unless the primary links die. At least some brave soul can tolerate the bullshit links for us, and reupload proper fresh mirrors again.
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mediafire is best for e-book/magazine.
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It would be nice to only use good filehosts but you have to consider their response to DMCA notices, sometimes it may be acceptable to use a gangster host (Rapidgator) simply to keep your files alive. Digital Juice is a good example of an aggressive copyright holder, if you want to upload their stuff then frankly you are entitled to use any host that works.
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Whatever the reason, the people that originally provide the tutorials have choosen to use the now banned filehosts. Might be a problem.
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Hence my idea above, with allowing them as replied to mirrors.

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Only a problem for those who don't remirror, and just copy paste. People we refer to always remirror the crummy hosters, usually to the exact same ones, so it's counted to their account.
Link paste overs are not nearly as common as remirrors, as I've noticed. Why should we hold back this idea over a few people who don't like to remirror?
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Btw ryushare duplicated in the "shit" list.
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Putlocker worked fine as far as i kwow. And if not, a torrent and you're settled.
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Another problem is assclowns like jolibee mirroring huge amounts of stuff to premium only and then flooding his "goodwill" to a bunch of threads.

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have not a bad speed, but i think its sensles when u ask me ban hosters, i think a rule thaht when u use one from the list thaht u must use one from the frindly list.
So people with prem can load from uploaded, who havent one use zippy
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Yeah Mediafire is fine, but they locked 1 file of a multi-part download for some reason, so i uploaded that part to Zippyshare (pretty good and quick)

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Maybe, but someone that mirrors files and sets them to premium only are the same type of people that would also report the original files on the free hosts so their mirror is the only option. He has already deleted some of his free mirrors but left the premium only still up.
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@ larrys, your claim sounds a little paranoiac, but on the other hand it is very logical. Destroy the "competition" so only your links stay alive..... In the end it turns out that you saved the situation. Clever tactic, if someone uses it is difficult to prove.
I'm glad that the CGP staff takes care of such things, thank you.
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I would agree but I've seen it happen quite a few times around the net.
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Rapidgator, ryushare and netload are by far the most common hosters. Why ban anything? Those "acceptable" ones are utter shit because less than 5% of the net uses them. Why impose restrictions down to the lowest common denominator?

Hypothetically speaking, If someone wanted to save 7 thousand dollars on one particular program in order to "evaluate" it without limitations, how about they at least cough up 10 dollars for a premium subscription? If someone can afford high speed internet access and hardware to run these usually resource heavy programs, chances are they can afford it.

Or a more accurate assessment of the situation, hypothetically speaking, if people want to evaluate tens of thousands of dollars worth of goodies in a months time, then parting with 10 dollars shouldn't be asking too much.

It's a simple cost vs benefit analysis.

By the way, I couldn't care less if someone "earns" something via their uploads. Those people help proliferate those links all over the net so others can enjoy them. Judging by the sheer volume of some they must spend 12+ hours a day doing it.

Anyway, just my 2 cents...

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@sexjunkle: the argument that one should be fine with paying $10 for testing, since it's much less than the full price is invalid, because $5000 for example is also much less than $10000, so where do you draw the line? You draw it at the only objective number possible which is 0 = free, because all the other numbers would be completely arbitrary and because the first rule of "testing" is to not make money from it.

I support having a list of friendly lockers and/or a list of banned ones, because the situation is getting almost ridiculous, with some lockers operating like outright scam sites and there's no good reason to support that. Alternatively or in addition to this list you could also take a look at how the uploaders act - are they going out of their way to annoy the users above & beyond the locker imposed rules, or are they trying to make the best out of the locker rules. For example many lockers have file size limits and some uploaders put big files on them in 1 piece, so they're only downloadable with a premium account, but when a complete release is below this size limit, they somehow find the time and will to split it into several needlessly small files just so that one must wait before getting the next one. This imo is an obvious douche move deserving of some attention.
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Except when it isn't just 10 dollars. It is the constant rotation of hosters that always seems to happen when host A is popular this week and then you need to sign up for four or give hosts because that is the host du jour next time because host A is now cracking down on copyrighted materials.
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You use basic common sense to draw the line. For starters, there aren't 5000 thousand dollar premium file host plans...

Like I previously stated, 10 dollars a month is economically feasible to most of those with high speed internet connections who enjoy downloading resource heavy CG software to use on their high end hardware. The argument over 33 cents a day at this point is as ridiculous as the lady in front of you at the checkout line who whips out a food stamp card and walks out to her 60k dollar Escalade with 26 inch chrome rims.

And for those genuinely on tight budgets who can't afford 33 cents a day, there are multihosters out there like alldebrid for 3.99 dollars a month (13 cents a day).
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Nothing pisses me off more than downloading via premium to get some extremely hard to find software only to discover it's almost always a password protected .rar as well, requiring you to fill out surveys or jump through a bunch of suspicious hoops to supposedly get the file. Those type of links are extremely rare though. At least from my experience.

I support download options and the freedom to choose. It's easy enough to spot the bad links and for someone to forewarn not to bother downloading the link. It's also easy enough for those users to be banned and the thread deleted. IMO, Just because a 1 in 500 link is set as a premium only download on rapidgator or upload doesn't mean the remaining 499 links set as a free download on the same file host service should be trashed as well.

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I never understood why so many people didn't bother using multiupload.com.
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even if high-speed and instant download,
sendspace has some restriction>first downloader enjoy high speed then it speed is being around 100-150KB/s and you can only 300 MB /day.
Nitrobit is not free host? speed around 150KB/s waiting time, it seems to be same ul.to/RG category.
Mediafire: can't upload larger than 200MB, files deleted fast, only 1st few downloaders enjoy speed, seems to be a bandwidth restriction.
These free host don't stay long time. mediafire or other free host file removed beyond 30 days.

so, Ul.to files stay upto 180 days/6 months after last download if it not deleted by copyright issue.
RG and other keeps files stay long withing 30 days. I don't like RG speed, but my experience it stay longer from DMCA reports than free host.

Lol! I don't support the idea when a user who set all files to premium.
so that user should be warned/banned instead of banning host if downloader/leecher constantly reports for it.

Here is two option:
1. Wait for Mirrors
2. your favorite CGPEERS/ other torrent?

but Don't post "torrent plz" or similar words on release thread! it spam or troll thread.
I watched some time someone posted torrent link, but leechers ask torrent plz like dumbass.
So, Admin kindly stop this first...
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Are you going to tell me what you wanted to say. Especially the part where there is a torrent link but someone asks for torrent.
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Well common sense is another pretty arbitrary concept I'm afraid - one's common sense is not the same as another's, especially in a global setting and I for one wouldn't want to assume the position of a role model in everyone else's reality, no matter how highly I regard &quot;my own common sense&quot;. Maybe the number I used in my example didn't lend itself to the most comprehensible argument, so let me try again. The question/problem for me is not feasibility, it's the principle - &quot;testing&quot; should be free and you shouldn't be making money off of it. If $10 is feasible, then surely so is $11 and if $11 is feasible surely you can spare 1 more irrelevant dollar per month and make it to $12. Now repeat this &quot;irrelevant&quot; $1 step and where do you stop? Why there? Why not go 1 dollar more/1 less? There really is no good answer here, as far as I can see. Well except for $0 which is not simply 1 below $1, but a different concept altogether and in that respect further away from $1 than $1 is from $1000.
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With this I tend to agree, which is why I said in my previous comment that the behavior of the uploader should be taken into consideration: is he making the best out of the sometimes unavoidable locker restrictions, or is he acting &quot;scammy&quot; himself, being &quot;cute&quot; with how he splits the files, at times even different splits per locker, just to be less user friendly, even if it's obviously more work for him, etc. Personally I don't mind even relatively slow upload speeds, as long as they're steady (filepost comes to mind) and without stupid/scammy tricks, after all one can't claim testing is a time sensitive matter. Alas the unfortunate fact is that the whole locker situation is definitely and obviously degenerating and I fully support the good people of cgpersia in their care about quality and intentions to restore it.
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Common sense is an individual component, not some collectively arrived decison. In this case one exercises their own common sense based on factors like their own budgetary considerations.

As another poster already pointed out, those "free options" aren't the ideal one-size-fits-all solution when you consider the waiting periods, file size limits and reduced speed. For myself, I'll gladly pay 10 bucks a month not to deal with the frustration of bytes moving at a snails pace.

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, people are uploading movies there, and they stay for a long time, its free and fast, without captchas, you can download multiple files at once, and it works great with Jdownloader. For me its the fastest filehoster, and I know I can download a couple gigs from them in 10 minutes or so.
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You've got ryushare.com twice on the list. I agree it's bad and deserves to be banned. Sadly writing it twice won't stop ppl from using it. ;(

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I disagree. With NitroBits.com, free users have to wait hours before downloading another file. NitroBits.com should be banned.


More Sites to Ban (I've used them and they impose wait times / CAPTCHA for free users / require web surveys to be filled before d/l):
  1. NetLoad.in
  2. LetItBit.net
  3. TurboBit.net
  4. ShareFlare.net
  5. VIP-File.com
  6. DepositFiles.com
  7. Mega.co.nz
  8. UploadCore.com
  9. FileCloud.io
  10. BitShare.com
  11. FileFactory.com
  12. Extabit.com
  13. Share-Online.biz
  14. Crocko.com
  15. FileSpeedy.net
  16. BurnShare.net
More Sites to Allow (fast, no wait time, multiple downloads permitted, no CAPTCHA = free-user friendly):
  1. PutLocker.com
  2. 180upload.com

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cartcha is not problem, i can live with this, but wait times and down speed sometimes make it impossible to download. For now, my solution is a CGPeers, but in some countries torrent is banned, who knows what will happen tomorrow.
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what about include at least one "unbanned-filelocker" with the primary links ?
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I hate captchas, I always fail...

So how the rule actually stands? First post anything goes, and for the late mirroring only sanctioned hosts? Or the other way around?

In the first situation, the first post will probably use crappy hosts, but will be in the interest of the poster to keep them alive, which means, there will be little need of alternative links and so few will be posted.

In the second situation, the first post will have only sanctioned hosts, but is under the risk of being reported by people wanting to mirror it, and there is also less incentive of people to repost it.

I think a better rule will be, you can only post a link to a banned host if you also post link to a sanctioned host (simultaneously and for the same file).

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Great Thread to keep the always beloved supreme Quality!

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depositfiles works fine (on single file) on my side
just have to refresh a couple of times if the first try doesn't work
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Files are destroyed respectively after 60/90 days of inactivity for unregistered/registered users
File size is limited to 10GB by web and 20GB by FTP/Remote Upload.
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Very Good thread.. Thank you cgp moderator and admin for creating this thread.
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Uploaded is a great site
Extabit less so

I use both all the time, so don't ban them. Sites being recommended are none of the sites I would pay for. I hope this thread is not about favoring some sites to the detriment of others. Banning should be for absolutely solid reasons. What you are looking for here is a "criteria" list for banning, so lets see the criteria list. There is a list isn't there or is this just political? Just asking...
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well, it might help to actually read the #1 post:


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exabit should be banned too.
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DepositFiles works fine, but for non-premium members it's a PITA.

60 second for CAPTCHA to appear, maximum download speed is ~150 kB/s, subsequent download incurs a wait up to 5 hours. Therefore DepositFiles is poor for non-premium members. Too much time waiting resulting in loss of productivity.

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Uploaded like DepositFiles is a PITA for non-premium members. Too much time waiting resulting in loss of productivity.

60 second for CAPTCHA to appear, maximum download speed is ~49 kB/s, subsequent download incurs a wait time of 3 hours. Therefore Uploaded.to/Uploaded.net is poor for non-premium members.

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[/LIST]Neither DepositFiles or Uploaded.to/Uploaded.net meet those criteria and so are deemed as unsuitable.
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the most premium account that floating around the net are filefactory and megashares, so yeah my vote goes to them
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kick exabit-bastards - a lousy 250 Mb files takes three fucking hours to download
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good to see things are tightening up around here.....good job, keep it up!
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